New Spawn Points 9-25-19

Went out today to our usual walk spot and where community day usually happens the most by us. It was as I feared it would be. There was barely any pokemon around. I saw 10 when there is usually 30.

Worried? Nah. Taken aback? Yeah.

Maybe I’m the only one here who would like to know what the fix is, or what it means that you know a fix? Ordinarily your claim to know a fix, combined with your neglecting to offer any further comment on it, would be taken as a taunt.

Yes actually there is. Niantic “support” stated in one of their latest auto-reply answers was to wait a reaction of the official channel. So I guess there will be a response so I just try to hope for the best.

And the fix is in OMS. The magic is in the tag “landuse=residential”. Map wracking would be to remove it, but that is just miss use of OMS.

As far as my understanding goes the tag does not block spawns but just does not help to create them anymore as was before the change. I made a list of gathered tag about what does and what doesn’t help to create spawns. Some actually block spawns.

Applying them appropriately should bring back spawns. And believe me, it is a lot of work.

Thanks for the added context, @MrHeineken88. I look forward to either having it be fixed or learning what I can do to lessen the problem.

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Just a small example:

Sometimes a small park is not tagged as a park but just fall under the overlay of the residential tag. That park, particularly in area’s with a low amount of players, could now have no spawns, even with a gym or stop present. By adding the overlay for parks in place the park could get it’s spawns back.

Although I don’t know what the OMS update frequentie is, it might take some time to work out. Eventually the map would not be wracked, but Pokemon go players would benefit.

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If its for the greater good? Yes.
I havent checked our normal CD route yet (didnt have much time last few days) but i really hope its still intact. Based on what ive read here and there, its not looking too good.

@Robdebobrob It’s unfair to crop a person’s words so the context of the original comment is lost.

Further to your point - and leaving the spurious notion of the greater good aside - if a group of people have had an advantage over others for a period of say two-and-a-half years and then the situation is reversed, then those people who have lost the advantage do not have a legitimate complaint until they have been disadvantaged for the same period of time.

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

The reality of the situation is that Niantic should have removed less and adjusted timers if they did not want to increase overall spawns but still create new spawn points.

Even as a beneficiary of having multiple spawns at my home I think it was a poor decision to make such a sweeping change. That being said most players don’t have much to complain about as we still still have plenty of access to good spawns. For those who did see a dramatic decrease in spawns hopefully Niantic will remedy the situation.

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I can’t wait until my first full day at work tomorrow with all the new spawn spots. I only got quick tease Wednesday afternoon.

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Wow. you are taking this WAAAAAAAAAAAAY to serious…
About the cropping: Hardly. It pretty much covers it all, and your whole comment is both viewable about 15 comments up, and under the clickable “↓” in that same block quote.

About point 2: No thats not how that works… If half of the total community loses its park spawn points for example just so a handfull of players can get home spawn points it really isnt worth it in my oppinion.
If it turns out our local park now suck cause of this, ill gladly revert back to the way things were and lose my extra home spawn. Ill even sacrifice the 2 i had before. Home spawns are overrated. Id rather have an interesting 3 hour CD out and about with friends than a few useless spawns a day that really dont give that much SD.

About point 2: no that’s not how it works…

Assuming all men/women/pokemon accounts are created equal and everyone‘s time is equally as valuable - for it to be fair for 1 person to lose their spawns after 36 hours when for a period of two-and-a-half years they haven’t had any, it would need 608.33 people to lose their spawns. Which would be ridiculous but fair.

Workings : 21,900 (hours without spawns) divided by 36 (hours with spawns) equalling 608.33.

Furthermore, you say home spawns are overrated. I wouldn’t know - I’ve never had any. Give me about two-and-a-half years to judge and I’ll let you know whether I agree.

Look - I don’t want anybody to lose their spawn points. The joy felt by all the initial posters in this thread at getting new spawns has surely been tempered by hearing stories from those that have lost out. It has certainly taken the gloss off it for me… but to revert to the old system would be a cruel and unusual punishment.
It would be like giving a poor kid a bike for Christmas and then taking it off him on Boxing Day and giving it to the rich kid down the street.

My home spawn points got removed a little bit too, but the spawn rate definitely is reduced by about 50%, which means I get 50% less stardust when playing at home.

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Still not loving the reduced spawning levels and re-configured spawn points. (mumble, bleah) Considering trial separation from the game. I wouldn’t be surprised if they announced a half-catch-stardust event next…

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Not much of a reaction but it a reaction none the less… :man_facepalming:

Now, some days in, I have had time to check my usual playing grounds. Despite the fact that I have an almost cluster spawn in my house and 3 new spawns right on the office building where I work, the changes were not to the better…

  • downtown - less overall spawns
  • our small local park and Community Day area - only half the spawns it had before, it might even have lost its status as nest. At least I wasn’t able to tell which Pokémon is currently nesting there
  • several areas where there had always been 5 or 6 spawns along a short track - only one or two left.

I could be happy with my home and office spawns, but I’m not, because it’s not about me. I’d be perfectly happy the way it was before.
Completely removing spawn points in a city center or a park, that’s just nonsense.
It’s almost like Niantic tells me to stay at home instead of to “get up an go”…:thinking:

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I’ve found all of this fascinating reading and most of it sounds like it’s changed for the worse.
As Golding Gyms is a very big part of my game play traveling from area to area a lot I can’t comment on any noticed difference. My office spawns seem the same and my single spawn point at home has stayed the same.
I’ve yet to go to the spot I do most of my CD’s or the popular Park not far from home.

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Found a new spawn point at my house. No event running, so Niantic might actually fixed (part of) the problem. :thinking:

Edit: I just realized it is on the same day that the Safari Zone event started… But did we get extra spawns when there was a Safari Zone? Can’t remember. :man_shrugging:

Just hoping the spawns stay when the event is over…

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There is another new spawn point at my house too.
Hopefully people can get back what they lost and then we’ll all be happy :grin::crossed_fingers:

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