And Niantic will never prevent 100% of the players from cheating.
Certainly Niantic has the same thought as you. Spoofing is not worthwhile to be handled with, so that theyāre now working on things like gen 3 and PvP.
I agree with everyone here but hereās a question I ask what about someone that lives in the middle of no where and the closest pokestop is around an hour away and closest gym even farther. If they spoofed just to be able to catch PokĆ©mon but never took over gyms whatās the issue there? It seems everyoneās complaint is spoofers take the gyms for coins and I agree thatās in no way fair but what about the people that that donāt take the gyms but spoof just have pokestops and PokĆ©mon and the ability to play? Or the people that are disabled and donāt have the ability to move around? Is it fair for them to be fans of the game and want to play but never get to due to things they canāt control? So long as they arenāt taking over gyms and never leaving them to rack up coins I donāt see an issue if they spoof so they can be able to play the game and bought poke-coins if they ever needed them.
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Spoofing is (as a LOT of people have said) something that is not going away in a hurry. It is also not something that has as much impact as it used to. Spoofers used to be able to put 20, 30, 50 mons in gyms & collect coins for having them there if they stayed there for 24+hrs. Now the max is 50 coins per 24hrs for ALL mons placed then knocked out. This is (or should be) a deterrent for most who spoof & bot.
So are spoofers still really ruining the game? From my POV, no. They get the same amount of coins as anyone else (notwithstanding they may have multiple accounts) and can place the same number of mons in gyms (but if youāre worried about gyms that have multiple āspooferā mons in them - maybe farm some potions & spend 20mins taking it downā¦).
It takes 3 rounds to defeat most gyms if you know what youāre doing (if you donāt, search YouTube for battle tips from Trainer tips or Prodigies Nation) so thereās no reason to still be winging about spoofers in gyms.
**For rural players, please take this post with a grain of salt - Iām in an urban location in Australia with the ability to farm stops/mons for revives & potions daily travelling to & from work on public transport, so this post represents MY point of view, not those who donāt have that luxury.
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Iāll agree with that. My defense of spoofers is because of people I know. I personally am able to drive out to the nearest pokestops and gyms on a daily basis and do so as I work in that area, but thatās around a hour to hour and half drive from the town I live in. However I have a friend who is disabled and unable to do so. Iāll agree he could take some form of public transportation but the issue there is when you live in extremely poor rural Eastern Kentucky there is no public transportation services in our town or area. So the only way he is able to play is to spoof which I have no problem with. He doesnāt take and hold gyms he only catches mons farms pokestops and helps do raids. If he wants coins heās always bought them so I personally donāt have a problem with people like him spoofing because otherwise how do they receive fair and equal opportunity to play.
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in this game all cheatā¦using car is like spoofā¦thats all
No it isnāt, and only a moron would make such a comparison. That or someone just trying to justify their own cheating. Spotting you guys is so easy.
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Can we stop confusing impact with prevalence.
Also there is a huge difference between a deterrent and removing motivation.
Perhaps I am nitpicking your word choice. But given the context of your post, its purpose is to paint spoofers in a much more positive, or less negative light. Iām sorry but I canāt let that slide.
For the average person their gym participation and coin collection has gone up. So the gym rework was a win. Also given that all players are limited to 50 coins motivation for monopolizing a gym has diminished. Spoofers are inherently selfish people. @ironman presents the most recent of tall tales to justify spoofing. I can tell you that even if his story is trueā¦ it is absolutely the exception and not the rule. Unless this country has suddenly become full of people who are disabled. Because spoofers are selfish they donāt really need a reason to do what they do, and they donāt care the impact it has on others. Perhaps their ONLY motivation is to get gold in as many gyms as possible, perhaps they just like knowing theyāre pissing people off. I donāt cheat and quite frankly donāt associate with those that do.
Because gyms are now more accessible than they were in the past I have become acutely aware of who is and who isnāt a real player. While I may have been blissfully ignorant and the spoofers may have had deniability with the way gyms were previously. Now I know who is legit and who isnāt and its alarming the number of people who cheat.
Here in Riverside county in California, we have a fairly populated city/county. But it still isnāt anything like the big city (like Los Angeles or Anaheim) I canāt ever just walk up to a raid and know that people are going to be there raiding. While Riverside has a population of 325k, its still a struggle sometimes to get 6+ to make a raid (some areas are easier than others). I live in a city of only 88k. We have used social media to create communities to communicate and organize raids. Some days weāll spend several hours hitting up various raids throughout the city and neighboring cities.
I say this because these communities have a very strong commitment to refrain from cheating, and not to include or support cheaters as we value the INTEGRITY of the game, the spirit of the game, the purpose of the game. I have to get up and drive 15 minutes at least to meet up with people to play. Now granted thatās a far cry from someone in a small town in Kentuckyā¦ who may only have 1 pokestop within an hours reach. Quite frankly though I doubt Iād even bother playing if I was in that situation. That might sound harsh, and I am by no means taking the āWell then donāt play!ā positionā¦ but Iād honestly probably look for another game to satisfy my poke-fix. I enjoy the gameā¦ but it isnāt SO fun that Iād spoof to play, and doing it out of necessity would get oldā¦ fast. Which brings me back to my point that THESE spoofers are the exception and not the rule. So it almost isnāt even worth the anecdote. All it does it muddy the waters and the real douchebags that live in a big city, and could be playing legitimately just canāt be bothered to go outside, just get a new excuseā¦ oh ya me tooā¦ Iām disabled, and live in podunk (no offense) countyā¦ donāt hate meā¦ I NEED to spoof.
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Only morrons can write bullsih like you.I know meny players(legit) and all use calculators,maps and other stuff.Making any advantage is unfair.You can now write book of stupidity.
Guys calm down! Jeez! Stop fighting and discuss the topic like normal people!
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To much bickering. We can be more productive than where this is headed