# Gen 4 update analysis **URL:** \ **Category:** Archived General\ **Created:** [October 11, 2018, 1:41am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546 "2018-10-11T01:41:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/pokemon/32/19489_2.png) [@Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/Pokemon)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 1:41am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/1 "2018-10-11T01:41:42Z")
NERFS: Aqua tail: 50\> 45 Body Slam: 50\> 40 Bug Bite: 6\> 5 Discharge: 40\> 35 Dragon Claw: 40\> 35 Frost Breath: 12\> 9 Iron Head: 40\> 30 Lick: 10\> 5 Metal Claw: 12\> 8 Mud Shot: 12\> 6 Poison Jab: 15\> 12 Pound: 8\> 7 Psycho cut: 15\> 7 Scratch: 10\> 6 Shadow Claw: 16\> 11 [1/2] Water gun: 10\> 6 Wing attack: 12\> 9 Zen Headbutt: 15\> 12 [2/2] New moves: Skull Bash Acid Spray Earth Power Crabhammer Lunge Crush Claw Octazooka Mirror Shot Super Power Fell Stinger Leaf Tornado Leech Life Drain Punch Shadow Bone Muddy Water Blaze Kick Razor Shell (The attack sound was added for Meteor Mash) Next: Selection of multiple pokemon for battle party Showing of friends list in raids Next: All gen 4 pokemon have been added, but the important part (we already know th pokemon) is the forms. Rotom Normal Rotom Frost Rotom Fan Rotom Mow Rotom Wash Rotom Heat Wormadam plant Wormadam Sandy Wormadam trash Girantina Origin Girantina Altered Shaymin Sky Shaymin Land Cherrim Overcast Cherrim Sunny Shellos West Sea Shellow East Sea Gastrodon East Sea Gastrodon West Sea And ALL of Arceus’s forms. Next: BGMode Egg Hatch BGMode Buddy Candy BGMode Weekly Fitness Report BGMode Buddy Pokemon Nickname. And the “Mystery Box” seen in the Meltan video LINK: > **[Minería de datos 0.123.1 | 1.93.1](https://telegra.ph/Miner%C3%ADa-de-datos-01051--1751-06-06)** > > Entrenadores, > Han sido agregadas y modificados los siguientes archivos en el APK de la nueva versión 0.123.1 de Pokemon GO. > 45 intra-line modifications > 2051 lines removed, 3524 lines added > 5593 line different total. > > Entrenadores, > Estas son los notas... It is in Spanish so far… but, use google translate like me. ---
**Author:** ![bobbyjack8](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/bobbyjack8/32/21337_2.png) [@bobbyjack8](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/bobbyjack8)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/2 "2018-10-11T02:07:08Z")
Was any move buffed? Or were they all nerfed? ---
**Author:** ![Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/pokemon/32/19489_2.png) [@Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/Pokemon)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/3 "2018-10-11T02:46:46Z")
All nerfs so far. ---
**Author:** ![Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/pokemon/32/19489_2.png) [@Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/Pokemon)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:47am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/4 "2018-10-11T02:47:22Z")
@bobbyjack8 Shadow Claw seems to have a massive nerf so king Gengar is getting dethroned when this update come out. ---
**Author:** ![bobbyjack8](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/bobbyjack8/32/21337_2.png) [@bobbyjack8](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/bobbyjack8)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:47am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/5 "2018-10-11T02:47:45Z")
Well that sucks donkey balls ---
**Author:** ![Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/pokemon/32/19489_2.png) [@Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/Pokemon)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:48am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/6 "2018-10-11T02:48:55Z")
Even if they buffed a move it would probably be poision sting or some Sh\*\* move like that anyway ---
**Author:** ![Mew1](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/mew1/32/16683_2.png) [@Mew1](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/Mew1)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:50am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/7 "2018-10-11T02:50:33Z")
Psycho Cut is cut in half, is it still a good fast move on Mewtwo? Should Confusion be used? Time will tell. ---
**Author:** ![Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/pokemon/32/19489_2.png) [@Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/Pokemon)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/8 "2018-10-11T02:51:19Z")
Confusion is already better for a Psychic attacker, but Psycho cut won’t be that good now. ---
**Author:** ![Mew1](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/mew1/32/16683_2.png) [@Mew1](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/Mew1)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:54am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/9 "2018-10-11T02:54:03Z")
Psycho Cut now is good at charging the charge move faster than Confusion, but given its 50% nerf, is it still worth to keep? ---
**Author:** ![Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/pokemon/32/19489_2.png) [@Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/Pokemon)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:54am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/10 "2018-10-11T02:54:32Z")
Not really. But the update has not come out yet. ---
**Author:** ![Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/pokemon/32/19489_2.png) [@Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/Pokemon)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:55am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/11 "2018-10-11T02:55:47Z")
I guess @Necrozmadabest will be mad that mud shot is being nerfed because… chomp! Also, just wanted to say that these are the only 2 important moves. (Besides Shadow Claw) ---
**Author:** ![Mew1](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/mew1/32/16683_2.png) [@Mew1](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/Mew1)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/12 "2018-10-11T02:57:00Z")
Shadow Claw and Body Slam are the two important ones? ---
**Author:** ![Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/pokemon/32/19489_2.png) [@Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/Pokemon)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/13 "2018-10-11T02:57:21Z")
Body slam is used on what.??? ---
**Author:** ![Mew1](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/mew1/32/16683_2.png) [@Mew1](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/Mew1)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/14 "2018-10-11T02:57:43Z")
Snorlax ---
**Author:** ![Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/pokemon/32/19489_2.png) [@Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/Pokemon)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 2:58am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/15 "2018-10-11T02:58:03Z")
Well Snorlax is getting a nerf anyway I think. ---
**Author:** ![Mew1](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/mew1/32/16683_2.png) [@Mew1](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/Mew1)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 3:00am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/16 "2018-10-11T03:00:07Z")
I guess the big 4 defenders will get nerfed ---
**Author:** ![Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/pokemon/32/19489_2.png) [@Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/Pokemon)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 3:03am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/19 "2018-10-11T03:03:35Z")
Can you remove this please ---
**Author:** ![bobbyjack8](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/bobbyjack8/32/21337_2.png) [@bobbyjack8](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/bobbyjack8)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 3:04am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/20 "2018-10-11T03:04:52Z")
Why? ---
**Author:** ![Mew1](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/mew1/32/16683_2.png) [@Mew1](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/Mew1)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 3:05am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/21 "2018-10-11T03:05:35Z")
@Pokemon is worried that they are not on topic ---
**Author:** ![Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/user_avatar/forum.pokemongohub.net/pokemon/32/19489_2.png) [@Pokemon](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/u/Pokemon)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 3:08am UTC](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546/22 "2018-10-11T03:08:12Z")
@bobbyjack8 put it in the meme team [Next page](https://forum.pokemongohub.net/t/gen-4-update-analysis/17546.md?page=2)